There is no need for Victor to be killed. If it were just to prevent the police from picking him up, he'd have sent Victor out of state and given him hazard pay. I like that theory about why tyrus rarely spoke, it definitely makes perfect sense.
1) He already had Mike's gun on them. I like to think that while Gus's main motive was A), he did it in a way to get across D).
After that, he was harder to take seriously. Coincidentally enough, the man he worked for ended up slitting his throat in of the most brutal scenes in Breaking Bad'shistory. Connect and share knowledge within a single location that is structured and easy to search. Of course, killing him so dramatically and directly in front of Walt and Jesse and then expecting them to clean up the mess also served the purpose of intimidation and Gus thought that he had to kill Victor anyway for failing to protect Gale, so might as well kill 2 birds with 1 boxcutter. I always figured it was because he was angry Walt had cornered him. And as we all know, actions speak louder than words. Although Gus didn't directly threaten Walt or Jesse following Victor's murder, the move was meant as an intimidation tactic. Jesse shot and killed Gale at his apartment before Victor arrived to stop him.SCREENRANT VIDEO OF THE DAYIn the Breaking Bad season 4 premiere, "Box Cutter," Walt and Jesse were held hostage so that Gus could punish them for their actions. Gus called the assassin brothers 'animals' which shows his distaste for violence. Maybe he flew too close to the sun and got his throat cut. 4) Gus kidnaps Walt's family. Walt had just disposed of his most important investment (Gale) through Jesse and subsequently foiled his whole future plan while also proving his initial gut feeling about Walt right: that Walt is not the kind of person he should have done business with. To subscribe to this RSS feed, copy and paste this URL into your RSS reader. In the Breaking Bad season 4 premiere, "Box Cutter," Walt and Jesse were held hostage so that Gus could punish them for their actions. Announcing the Stacks Editor Beta release! I think it was because Gus gave Victor instructions, and Victor didn't follow them. 3) He could fire Victor, or demote him to the streets. While waiting for Gus to arrive at the lab, Victor cooked his own batch of meth to prove he studied Walt's methods. I think you can call it a warning, a necessary act, and an expression of his displeasure towards them. She also has a soft spot for horror ever since she started watching it at too young of an age. It only takes a minute to sign up. Killing Victor like that was about taking back control and getting rid of a fool. Before joining Screen Rant, Kara served as a contributor for Movie Pilot and had work published on The Mary Sue and Reel Honey. And as for Walt, wellthere had to be some drastic response to Walt's actions.
Alternate ending: Walt gives his speech criticizing Victor's chemistry skills, Victor realizing he has a point says we (ie Gus) should then just kill Jessie and accuses Walt of bluffing about quitting, Jessie realizing he's probably dead anyway physically attacks Victor, Mike tries to intervene but Gus indicates he should let them sort it out themselves, then we have a laboratory fight - how many ways could that go? Coincidentally enough, the man he worked for ended up slitting his throat in of the most brutal scenes in Breaking Bad'shistory.As revealed in the prequel series, Better Call Saul, Victor worked for Gus long before the events of Breaking Bad. This point was addressed at the end of S05E03: Walt: Yeah. This is one of the best analyses of Gus's motivations in the thread, IMO.
Victor trying to cook that batch on his own, taking liberties that weren't his to take. Her favorite Avenger is Thor and her favorite Disney princess is Leia Organa.
And Gus may have used the opportunity to show what happens to people who cross him, so he chose to make an example out of Victor.D) Gus may have simply wanted to show that he wasn't one to be *beep* with. That is especially what attracted Walt to Gus's way of doing business. Gus went through some pretty radical personality shifts, but I think it's mostly because Victor was seen at Gale's crime scene coupled with his overreach in trying to cook a batch on his own. How does Walt deduce that he was the prime target of the Cousins? Victor giggled at a very tense moment + his is the one responsible, he does not understand he should not do the giggles, so for Gus this could be a sort of immature behavior which makes him look very stupid having such a team member. He liked the guy very much and was horrified when the man was killed right in front of him. rev2022.7.21.42639. I'd like to think jlmcdonald is right because it brings a lot of things together, but that detail needs clearing. Gus wasn't a bloodthirsty psychopath. Victor certainly didn't help his case by speaking as it focused Fring's attention and anger upon him. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top, Start here for a quick overview of the site, Detailed answers to any questions you might have, Discuss the workings and policies of this site, Learn more about Stack Overflow the company. What does he gain from it other than scaring Walt and Jessie? Some points from me. Talk about flying too close to the sun. However, it's likely that he would have been killed anyway as Fring needed to make a point. Gus's subsequent actions act as a punishment to Victor for being substandard, while simultaneously yet silently "accepting" Walt's request to leave Jesse alive. Victor's job isn't to think, it's to do what he is told. It needed to be done, to remove any ties to Gus. Gus had no way of knowing Victor's batch would be substandard. (And poison angle as well), Everything Everywhere All at Once Discussion, Paws of Fury: The Legend of Hank Discussion, Marcel the Shell with Shoes On Discussion. He was not going to risk saying something he shouldn't.Cool theory swolbach. Maybe there's another reason.
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As revealed in the prequel series, Better Call Saul, Victor worked for Gus long before the events of Breaking Bad. He had to die. Before joining Screen Rant, Kara served as a contributor for Movie Pilot and had work published on The Mary Sue and Reel Honey. I like how Walt seemed to be drawing parallels between Gus and victor to himself and Mike.I wonder what mike was thinking when he watched Gus kill victor, and if he knew Gus was planning to do that.And I wonder if Tyrus knew about what happened to Victor. It always stood out to me that when Victor is incredibly upset at the murder of Gale, and when he gets back to the lab, he is so angry he kicks over some items in his rage, but after watching it again and seeing the desperate cook to prove his worth, I can't imagine any other reason that Gus killed him. Just admitting that he had been outsmarted? It's just entirely out of character and without explanation or motivation. Plus, Gus not doing anything would have meant that Walter had won. What purpose are these openings on the roof? Jesse was at Gale's murder scene obviously, but before the gun shot no one had reason to be on alert about anything and after he shot him he was out, so people only started to gather after that. Just before Gus kills Victor, Walt monologues about how Victor is not as good of a cook, how he needs Jesse alive to help him cook, etc. Which left him only one option, keep Walter alive, but only after making a point about how dangerous it would be to try playing games with him again.
This doesn't make a lick of sense. So it worked with the scene and never stretched credibilityGus was a very scary guy up until we saw that bizarre flashback in Mexico that made zero sense. The worst part was definitely as you mentioned, how he holds the wound open to make him bleed out, and how long it seemed to take for him to die.
Maybe there's another reason. What would the ancient Romans have called Hercules' Club? "B" was one more factor - another side benefit of having him killed in front of the guys. By season 3, Victor watched over the meth superlab where Walter White (Bryan Cranston) and Jesse worked as part of Gus' operation. Some say it was because Victor because he was seen at the crime scene, but to me that doesn't seem enough of a reason to kill him, seeing as how Gus has, in the past, always tried not to resort to unnecessary killings with his subordinates. He stated that Gus killed Victor because he"flew too close to the sun" and that greediness caught the attention of Gus. So now that we've determined that Victor is not valuable as a cook, let's discuss his value as a henchman. Great reply by Lief below. The writers went with the shock and drama that the sudden killing of Victor produced. I think in hindsight you can see this in Victor's behavior too. Rather than target Walt and Jesse, Gus entered and cut Victor's throat with a box cutter before telling his employees to get back to work. Walter and Jesse have done a great job making themselves invaluable, as has Mike. Sorry buddy, you shoulda been more cunning and useful like Mike and Walter, and you've got no protection like Jesse. Think VG wanted us to see just how ruthless and evil Gus was, by having us witness it thru the shock on Mike's face. He could have just had Victor quietly killed by Mike, if part "A" was all that mattered. Victor was one of Gus's most trusted accomplices. Did he analyze their behavior? He might even have been able to manufacture Meth. So honestly, I believe Gus, being as intelligent as he is and this not being his first rodeo, believes that Victor had very little potential value as the main cook of their operation. In Breaking Bad season 5, Victor's death was mentioned by Walt while talking to Jesse. Victor served as Gus' henchman when the character made his series debut in season 2. Problably the most gut wrenching scene like shit i didn't anticipate that at all! For those of you that know the show well, you'll remember that Gus had a partner when he first tried to get into the meth business. In the end, Gus probably should have put more thought into taking Walt and Jesse out of the equation. Personally this struck me mostly as a revelation of Walt's rapidly growing ego. Mainly because he was seen at Gale's apartment, but I think there's also an element of punishment for failing to protect Gale, for his flagrant lack of caution at the crime scene, and for completely failing to manage the Walt situation in general. Kara Hedash is a features editor and writer for Screen Rant. Like Mike Ehrmantraut (Jonathan Banks), Victor was a violent enforcer of Gus' drug empire and made sure everything went smoothly for his boss. content: '/ '; If Victor was being punished, then why wasn't Mike punished as well? "D" was what the whole box cutter killing was about. There is absolutely no need for him to be killed. The decision to kill his longtime ally also held a deeper meaning.Gus Sent A Message To Walt & Jesse By Killing VictorAlthough Gus didn't directly threaten Walt or Jesse following Victor's murder, the move was meant as an intimidation tactic.