the way when the fence is set close to the operator. * Dust extraction is easier.
for the B3/K3 series (for the US market, anyway).
X31 combination machine.
the machine quicker to use and makes it look more "complete". There is a dual-function support bracket which runs from the
the riving knife upon re-installation). All the external ports are 120mm (5").
I was quick to reply that I probably didn't but I definitely wanted it.
I ordered a set of HSS blades as well.
Dual, simultaneous lifting of planer tables.
detract from the overall quality and feel of the machine, although I
Hammer USA personnel and Felder USA personnel
of the blade unless of course you lock the sliding table while ripping).
out an optional fence, the "cam lock" design. more handles to avoid moving the single handle around.
It works, it stays locked and its accurate
which means you can put this unit up against a wall and leave it there. a Euro machine requiring this blade configuration, youll have to re-drill
be sure and ask Hammer what the jump from 50Hz to 60Hz for USA - does
Not inexpensive at
This items shipping cost is estimated only, you will be contacted with the actual shipping cost before your credit card is charged. (remove and replace two nuts), and the only thing keeping it from being
I think your only chance at $6K would be to find a buyer who needs it ASAP, and is willing to pay to reduce Felder's delivery time. You may be able to come up with
ever go back to a standard cabinet saw. are a one-time-fix, meaning you perform the alignment and forget about
Jointer outfeed cam lock, Jointer infeed table.
I did a you tube video on my setup. A3-41 in "planing" mode, with
spindles and motor. up the drive belt allowed the high speed spindle to run, but the vibration
yet found, but you can tell when the motor is under load. Both machines have a main power
saws.
I also ordered
its not a complete ergonomic failure, it is a minor nuisance to use
The fence, in a word, is huge.
I was showen in the show room the difference between hammer machine serface, Felder Blanchard ground surface and format surface ground finish surface.
are a very good design and allow you to turn the machines "on a
The digital gauge is a must and instead of the mobility kit, i bought some nice locking casters and mounted them directly to the four "feet" of the base. A main power box towards the rear
I have since added a 12" 30T
wind speed when running - the saw is certainly not what youd call quiet
Its big, bulky and has sharp corners, so some care must be taken. Now the unit can be moved about safely and easy on the back ly.
Forrest Woodworker II (about $150 with all the holes drilled by Forrest)
At the 100 reading it is Perfect right on and at the 200 it is the same.
Have you called the dealer to see what or if they would offer as a trade assuming you are sticking with Felder/Hammer?
is much, much better ergonomically, but it wont make you forget your
After I struggled with sheer weight, limited maneuverability and stress on my back I modified my HAMMER mobility kit.
The crosscut fence must be used in the front position
table rail, a table extension on the outfeed side cannot be up against
your current blades (the layout is available from Hammer) and/or order
likely closer to 89 and 59 minutes.
If you have the space, stick with the 79" or longer
needed to be addressed after using the machines a bit. knowing full well they would not be "quick" to changeover,
Realistic selling price of a newly delivered Hammer A3-41 to buy a 5-way combo?
Getting the outrigger
the levers and move the fence. I wasn't trying to have a tone. My cutterhead/knife/table
Hammer offers a full line of blades.
time if I had to do it over again, I would have visited the truck
USA, located in Sacramento, CA.
the factory.
a choice, and you have the mindset and technical ability to go with
For planing and beveling work the planer fence is tiltable from 90-45.
Inspiring Media Inc. o/a Canadian Woodworking.
The long planer fence profile allows accurate guiding of the workpiece. with aluminum extruded fences which can be micro-adjusted.
and have to re-set the tape setting when doing so.
The infeed table is raised or
Since my shop is tiny and everything
One note on the Hammer vs. Robland
also has microswitches at various points to prevent power on when a
guards on other machines, although with the hard nature of the stock
for the abnormally large jointing jobs.
Re: Hammer A3-31 vs Hammer A3-41 ADVICE SOUGHT, http://www.minimax-usa.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=4&Itemid=35, Quote from: morgan on April 18, 2015, 02:03 PM, http://www.tersaknives.com/HSS-High-Speed-Steel_c_1.html. as addressed above, still to be resolved.
It can be adjusted to just a few thousandths
Also at that price you could buy it sell the mortizing attachment.
as I would have expected. so if you dont have a way to accurately do it yourself, have a qualified
During this process, the outfeed
replaced). I feel Hammer should incorporate into the "stock" machines,
This SHELIX head features 5 wings of knives with a total of 80 knives for installation in the HAMMER 16 Model A3-41 Planer Jointer Combo.
pawls work as advertised. your table saw, you might not be interested in the B3 with any of the
it.
The A3-41 has
This page was generated at 01:18 PM. or close to the fence (it can only get to about 1.5" away from
And if you use the rear
Although Festool strives for accuracy in the website material, the website may contain inaccuracies. of a sliding table directly on the left of the blade and the Hammer
this out and shipping the second spindle assembly already assembled. Each machine has a recessed "on"
to be installed prior to operation, the A3-41 comes pretty much assembled.
The machine comes with standard steel knives with HSS
speeds from 3,000 to 8,000 rpm. You can always adjust the slider
My shop already had 30a 220v
and motor themselves. order the additional spindle assembly by putting together the list of
The stock blade guard, which attaches
There is an exchange rate to consider and the machines
pop up, it was no big deal to get them resolved.
Is the additional 11cm worth the difference in cost?
By far the safest electrical
to leave them on the machines full time.
The A3-41 provides both 16"
Even
in mind, it was not designed to be a "quick change" process.
and work flawlessly I could use three of the extenders if I wanted
acceptable and repeatable adjustment range. metalworker/machine shop do it for you.
At $25 per, in retrospect I should probably have skipped two of the
None of these issues are related to poor design or workmanship,
All Shelix orders include at no charge:FivereplacementKN400 carbideinserts,One 1/4 Drive Handle,One T25 Torx Plus Bit.
They detract from machines of this quality, but in an overall
themselves are superb, no disappointments there. support/safety bracket on the fence, you HAVE to remove it and/or the
Once you use such a sliding table, I highly doubt youll
outfeed table then became a matter of trial and error, but eventually
company which, along with Felder, is part of the Felder Group of companies.
machine (i.e., Hammer personnel) could probably cut that in half, or
and I feel superior, design than the "31" series of 12"
OK, after all the above rambling,
I had one snafu during the delivery
design. Solid cast iron working tables ensure surface and thickness planing accuracy: Ergonomically designed machine handling elements such as the planer table adjustment system, improve user comfort on a daily basis. Features/Functions Where
dado head).
$750 to $1000 total to go with three phase via a converter and accessories
accurate.
the first place.].
the tilting arbor adds yet more options. And most if not all
mechanism so it only took a few seconds to correct, but more importantly,
capacity machinery. and conversation with Hammer, I swapped the two fences.
kit for the A3-41 (Hammer sent the correct kit Fedex overnight).
Not to be too provincial, but
Felder machines
well executed. We also release blog posts, recipes, and of course, eBooks to help you be the best wood worker possible.
Spiral cutter heads produce a smoother finish, reduce or eliminate sanding work, don't require sharpening, your product will pay for itself in a very short time.
done by loosening 1 to 4 bolts which hold it to the machine chassis. I found the drive belt was tensioned beyond all reasonable doubt.
if you are used to the beefy, adjustable rip fences which some from
in 30 seconds or less (800mm table extensions are also available). somewhat irrelevant to me.
would no longer engage. and should be better machines for the price.
I rented a truck and picked up the machines at the local truck terminal
I followed up with waxing.
takes some getting used to and, as Phil points out, there is no provision
The maximum thicknessing height of 8 7/8" (225mm) permits the processing of large and heavy workpieces. folks - all knowledgeable about specifics of the machines and woodworking
head, as the arbor is pretty much made to take one blade only since
All in all a decent setup. cuts are at 90 but in theory they are not. Someone more familiar with the
such a scale is something I never utilize anyway.
It takes some futzing to
good to above average.
button. satisfaction, without fuss.
I was in and the deal I received when I purchased the X31.
burn at this rpm.
They can hang off any rail, and 99% of the time I have
August 2000
After ordering the machine what feels like an eon ago, it was finally delivered on thursday!
The knife bolts on the jointer/planer
Actually I wasn't able to get a definitive answer.
Features or Functions Which
The Silent Power spiral knife cutterblock offers low noise, lower power consumption, less tear-out and longer tooling life.
its also quite safe and versatile.
* Easy to change.
or Problems, [I classify these issues as an
completely inconsequential item which bothers me in this area is that
The 15x15x2.5mm inserts are made of sintered tungsten carbide which is much harder than high-speed steel. Jointer/Planer.
sock the cam lock down, then it drops back down on the table), the scale
extensions, you can bring your jointer table length to about 97"
I will
this provides a surprisingly precise feel, although this is not a setting
The knives are easy enough to
use major improvement. Firstly trying to balance a 600 pound piece of machine on small footprint set of rollers is not easy.
Spiral cutter head planes board in a staggered way which is much better than a single straight cut.
Note: I consider these reviews to be "preliminary" not
bonus as well.
free up space for the handle which locks the fence on the rail (which
"perfect" dimensional results (i.e., over the 16" width
Thanks everyone for their replies. After almost 10 years of using the machine the only complaint I have is the flex in the fence. the "professional" crosscut fence for the B3, which is certainly
a real hassle due to the bulk of the fence.
This means that stock (secured
The extension tables are really
I ordered " and " collets
.008" on one end to .015" at the other end, Hammer replaced
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This is a mechanically straight-forward process but demands a fair amount
feelings about the Robland and would buy it again given the position
and a cutoff point for electric. the fence face).
the usefulness of your cutters. 90 is a matter of a setscrew and a little bracket working on the "cam
Not being a patient person, this is going to hurt. theory". wondering, I estimate my Hammer machines were roughly 25% less than
can have a field day with the adjustment options on these machines. the Robland and get the Hammers? the sliding table is next to the blade (there are some higher-end Euro
you aware of your feed rate. you want your slider to "slide away" from the blade at about
in this area. whats my take? the infeed table its 61 or so inches (1550mm) of triangular extruded
center of the fence and back (covering any exposed cutter area behind
levers are cramped together and "below" the fence assembly.
table.
30T Forrest instead of the 40T, as the 40T might have a tendency to
insert system if you were so inclined. work, they will replace the spindle. crosscutting but eliminates ripping issues. I religiously wear hearing protection anyway, so the noise is
I am pretty sure I am going to order a new A3-41.
the right to change my mind as the hours pile up! I talked to the felder rep lately, he asked me if I needed the 16" capacity. To make a long story short,
reputation for service and support, and I must say that approach carries
All in all I, with others, spent
I
Thanks for the replies guys. The skids produce a large amount of waste, so hopefully you have
The
With two 400mm table
and have never had issues in this area, I just thought Id point out
Nothing "bogs down" that Ive
will come to your site, help unload and install the machines and get
off the blade cap.
This means work is fully supported during rough-rip/sizing cuts (where
This machine is a different,
during use, the 12" blade combined with 3hp on the B3 will make
I have this guard and go from the
of an inch higher than the main table, allowing little to no workpiece
to the riving knife, has a 25mm port for dust extraction, which is suboptimal
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As of this writing, Hammer believes
the collets are a nice design and can be reached (and the spindle locked)
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new blades (so leave some $ in the budget for blades!). Its your choice, depending
I have recently been looking into the Hammer jointer planer combo machines and I'm really leaning towards the A3-41 with silent power.
door is not closed, or a table is up, etc.
of my delivery story, click here. $120, but the function is very useful. With the optional table extension, you can greatly extend the planer table dimensions in order to process large and heavy workpieces without assistance.
not turn on unless you really want them to.
dollars, so plan it out ahead of time and put it in the budget.
on the planer outfeed side, and to take the standard 67" jointer
Also, you have a choice on how
As with all such extended delivery processes,
They are interchangeable between
Keep in mind I ordered both spindles
The following items needed major
European hard, sliding, cupped cover which extends to cover as much
ordered my B3 with the 49" slider, which fits just right in my
IMPRESSIONS OF MY SPECIFIC MACHINES, General Alignment Issues
it is tiltable backwards from the operator, so this really expands
on how you typically work. of 12g wire, so fitting the 10g cord required a little bit of fussing
Ive decided to not use the rear support/safety
(and me having paid for them) beforehand. Most recently I owned a Robland
these machines, my hope would be they come up with a robust rip fence
is a suboptimal design and Ive had an issue consistently re-aligning
to the B3, and the tiltable shaper/router
First off, with this design you lose the ability to use a stacked dado
a 36" rip) but a real ergonomic challenge to use and get used to. You may want to ask your questions on the Hammer/felder forum as well. at the moment.
The soundness of the riving knife
If youve not yet used a "Euro"
Collect New Customer Copoun to all new registerations. at least 4hp/3ph on each machine. over to the Hammer side of things. However
Hammer Maschinen + Werkzeuge
The crosscut fence must be slid
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in the sense of really being incomplete, but rather in the sense that
Hammer guard it will stick out in "operator space" when the
Knowing full and well I had a machine surface, I took an Indian stone and lightly surfaced the top of the machined face.
and in place.
the option to "retire" my router table if I chose to do so
The fence itself, being triangular, allows
The control levers (for locking and setting angles) are
nut.
The Shaper the fence is well
crank handles (saw height, saw tilt, shaper height, shaper tilt), the
In practice,
The "cam-lock" fence
Sheartak Spiral Cutter Head for FELDER Hammer A3-41 Jointer Planer with 85 knives. passes.
So far this has not
I will only cover the machines as I have them configured.
Register and sign in before you order.
Sliding Table I am a huge proponent
This fence is tall and bulky, and the three control
Since the sliding table is directly
adjustments: A3-41: Jointer outfeed table,
Did I mention the fence is big? good indeed, and for $50 youd be silly not to order one.
The shaper spindle fired up and
lowered, or close to it, in order to go back to jointer mode.
sliding table is extremely well-made and engineered.
First time through this took about 20 minutes.
Try the machine, if it works with what you do keep it, if not sell it recover all your money and buy the bigger A3-41 or look into the Felder AD741.
After some thought
support, which means any transit issues will likely be resolved to your
machinery in general.
blades from Jesada.
"triangle" rip fence, which seems to be a carryover from the
I ordered a
change and replace, I averaged about 10 minutes for changeover.
What is the verdict on the mortising table? The A3-41 has a three-knife cutterhead
pigtail and machine connection points are sized for the Euro equivalent
I could run the B3 when it arrived. in the rip fence schemes available for the B3.
8mm and " collets). the machines to my driveway, despite Hammer USA having made those arrangements
Depending on where you live and what the travel costs
These items make sizing cuts a real breeze.
stickers.
Felder Group owns Hammer, and as such the Felder USA and Hammer USA
info on setup/alignment (I believe Hammer USA is working on this area).
issue.].
are cramped together and are a minor nuisance to use. * More than 10 times the life use of high-speed steel. You may want to mention your preference when
in that they could really use some organization and could use some detailed
Loosening
some are a matter of work preference.].
One other "adjustability"
you at least get one extra handle (total of two), but having four makes
tables are fine for 90% of my jointing and I can install the extensions
nice, but I cant compare it to the stock crosscut fence.
is a real winner in my opinion.
as you like.
Aligning the infeed table to the
Loosen the screw, rotate 90 for a new edge, tighten the insert in minutes.
Superb planing results are achieved with your Hammer due to the perfect integration of state-of-the-art technology and high-quality components.
But Ive also conversed with the President of
Each knife sits at a slight angle and produces shear-cut . The fence system is nicely done,
There are
Fellow B3 owner Phil Bumbalough
Truly a questionable design in my opinion. the arrangements for delivery are understood by all parties ahead of
up to Hammer to get the cutterhead precisely machined. Performing the "five
As well, I was disappointed
In practice,
their Felder equivalents, comparing capacity of the machines. Tablesaw/Shaper.
slider for ripping, you may have a problem when your rip will leave
http://fms.felder-group.com/FG/Gesam20-HC-EUK/122/, http://www.bwccompany.com/bowlingalley.html.
Has anyone upgraded from the A3-31 to the A3-41?
Whichever spindle is installed,
Since in my case these machines
- the "whir" will be more than you are used to in other cabinet
I received an incorrect mobility
Its supported on the outfeed table rail and covers approximately
its just not that beefy (the far end of the fence will lift when you
The
The planer table must be fully
Perhaps over time one could
space saving solution with optimum ergonomics: Planer tables tilt away from the user operating area, this ensures working with your Hammer is as user-friendly as possible and also requires less workshop space. [These are issues related to quality
First off, Hammer incorporates a neat adjustment
you may be somewhat disappointed with this setup.
Unfortunately it won't do much to help me, but if it clarifies things for others than that will be a positive outcome. process took perhaps 3-4 hours total.
there is less than a .005" variation in board thickness).
If I had more shop space, I would have ordered a larger slider
like outriggers, scoring blades, etc. have to joint rough or uneven edges. mentioned his concerns with the "triangle fence" and pointed
sliding saws which incorporate a design allowing the use of a stacked
and Hammer via phone, we managed to get the
into planing mode, you should remove the fence. The numbers are lined up perfect in a row and the pointer is dead on @ 12 o'clock.
- both across the 16" cutterhead and knife to knife. There are one or two tradeoffs
There are two microswitches which will also prevent
It might have cost me perhaps another
has one.
Ive spoken with numerous support
They
Overall, the cutterhead was precisely
jointer/planers from Hammer. use, I typically leave it in the fore position, where the fence is behind
Hammer offers a service where they
box (towards the rear of the machines) which provide overload protection
High Speed Spindle Collet(s)
The on/off switches are well-placed,
While certainly not detrimental
a five minute changeover (or less) is the shear mass of the spindle
lowered via the "L" shaped handle shown below. (I found a 36" rip cut to be accurate to three digits). There was a difference in expectation vs reality, and understanding how those expectations were built up is an important part of the process.
over the table surface, its mostly bump and push/pull to get it moving
combination machines at a price point below the likes of Felder or Knapp,
Id recommend
50mm port directly to 80mm hose.
would be, this service could be well worth the expense.
thin waste strips - the waste strip can get hung up on the slider.
spindle, it tried to ramp up the rpms but the main electrical box would
the ripped cutoff is to the right of the blade and the workpiece is
Biesemeyer anytime soon.
an extension table on the outfeed side.
way (tripping a microswitch in the process, so the machine cannot turn
decide. There
The B3 takes up to 315mm diameter
question about it.
fairly precise setting of the crosscut fence. Quality Machinery and Tools for Woodworking, To Receive E-mail Notifications
the machine.
that apparently no one ran the high speed spindle prior to delivery. Every 3 to 6 months I give a light stoning and re-wax.
and reaming.
your rip cuts are not absolutely, positively dead nuts at 90, but rather
The hold-in
beefy and mostly vibration-free. obviously must be shipped via freighter into the U.S. and then ground
The tables are spring assisted and
My fence had a bow ranging from
over, and I will be working on ways to decrease that time. one or two of the three adjustment handles with nuts or knobs would