Howl also works in super, and is.terrifying. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. The cost of Nova Bomb is 200k. It applies to howl as well, and it already did quite a bit more than the standard glacier nade crystals. It is much higher than Adaptives, but even though it almost matches up to Aggressives, the usage of it is so different it doesn't really fit there either. I love this sheet - but what always confused me is why, especially for primary and special weapons which are typically used in non-boss situations, there is always the assumption of Lunafactions? This is separate from the "headshot" you do when shooting her head. Cheers! Am I reading this right: Fighting Lion does better Avg DPS than Special GLs? Performance cookies are used to understand and analyze the key performance indexes of the website which helps in delivering a better user experience for the visitors. The tables belowuse the excellent data from the Damage Chart Madness spreadsheet. Since the ramp-up on a single person with O.P. Bungie may investigate this since it makes Celestial deliver less damage than Nova Bomb. After testing a bunch and using it, I'm still not sure if this is all intended for Bequest, or if it's a bug and Bungie will fix it later.

Yeah, the FG/Lament comparison is closer now than ever. These changes didn't mess with the tiering of weapons as they stood before, as the previous numbers were fairly accurate.

Might need a special section for Bequest and Sola in this. Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. They got a nice +15% damage buff and a +20% Reserves buff. It can also be buffed with synthoceps.

I have no idea, honestly.

thanks to the faster charge time rapid-fire frames have a higher dps.

I'll tone down the colors when I get access to my PC, These spreadsheets are a serious asset for anyone looking to min max in the endgame and for day 1 contest raids. Thanks for the heads up! Depending on the content/acivity used, raw Nova Bomb may outdamage GG (Celestial). 112 health Stormvermin 46 hp Fanatic 88 hp Marauder Clanrat 70 Cata (looks like legend + 25% ): [MHW] Some study about the amounts of orange/gray damagetl;dr if youre gunner, you get Orange damage numbers if the target hitzone is equal to or greater than 45.

I will say im a bit unsure of the slug part of the section.

Nobody will corroborate this, but behemoth titan is the strongest pve super in the game now by a country mile. Analytical cookies are used to understand how visitors interact with the website. These stack with Global buffs such as Lucent Blade. So Golden, when theres a crit multi, will perform much higher. Drop the unnecessary apostrophes. Whirlwind Blade is a weapon buff. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Performance". This occurs because various opponent kinds have varying multipliers, such as 1.2, 1.5, or even 2x (Kali, for example), depending on the content, and theres also the Ability Damage Taken, which, if its not so high, well If thats the case, youd be better off dropping Celestial. Same thing when you look at them on all the various database websites (D2G, L.GG, etc). Use that spin mindfully. With slide + spike + vorpal? It is now corrected! Guns that do not have the ability to do precision damage are affected by this, as it's again, separate from a "headshot". I designed it to work in tandem with the Damage Chart Madness sheet which is IMO the best source for weapon damage information. 6,218 Damage for Vortex/Adaptive's Light Attack.

The cookie is set by the GDPR Cookie Consent plugin and is used to store whether or not user has consented to the use of cookies. Required fields are marked *. Will you update this for season of the lost? Thanks as always for your amazing work! We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. There's 3 towers by the end so you'll be fighting in pairs. They are a more viable pick now- as are Precision Auto Rifles. That was an error on my database (it was showing the same as Total damage).

Are there caveats to this? Ouch. Can you clarify the 'Time To Empty' column?

This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Have questions about this post, Destiny 2 in general, or are simply looking for a friendly D2-focused community? Non-exotic Machine Gun DPS is truly embarrassing, hitting both Lunas and their boss damage just killed any viability. Some of them are almost as important as raw damage. Alternating attacks (howl, then slam) to detonate multiple crystals into or on a frozen target is the best way to deal damage. No Time to Explain - How was it calculated? For Science! A bunch of backend work happened here. Oracle's are a bitch and you need to understand how they work. R: This is an excellent one since raw-damage is extremely useful in lengthy GM monster battles, especially outside of 1-phasing raid encounters. He loves gaming, and he's really good at it - he's even won a few tournaments. This is a great list! Still very strong. The reserve buff, while not exactly 20% (This stat is.. very complicated) helps them be more usable overall.

Corrected now, thanks for the heads up! For that reason, this ranking will be updated at least once per season. Each day I am starting to love Tarrabah more and more, it fucking shreds and this sheet confirms it. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. You can read more about those changes. Should be fixed now.

The other fragments I use are fissures for bonus crystal damage, shards to regen grenade since you have an infinite supply of crystals to shatter, and rime to constantly gain overshield. That's because SMGs aren't auto rifles. Vortex takes more ammo on it's heavy attack, lowering it's total damage output. I hope they fix it. Average DPS only considers full magazines. Times-to-kills are listed with optimal damage (maximum damage at close range) and damage falloff will dramatically affect the listed numbers (SMGs and sidearms in particular). Choosing just one though, I think most people would probably just prefer the Wave itself though, since the small initial blast almost never hits your target. Numbers are influenced by Light Levels, Content (Free-Roam, Instance), and Activity (Raid, Strikes). List updated as of Season of the Haunteds release (S17). Lightweights are behind them, but without Whirlwind they won't keep up with the other sword archtypes as well.

Made an error with transitioning my reload speeds. So, yes it competes now with other autos.

It's one of my favorite weapons ever. With legendries also being able to take advantage of Vorpal weapon and Boss spec, these are actually looking like a pretty good option for a single damage weapon. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Two slams and two howls broke nearly all the crystals, for 895,000 damage at once. Im not going to go into the rules of the game, because for that you can just check out the thread on the official forums. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". And yes, I know that in less than a month's time my numbers may get screwed with a bit.

A great one gets close to +30%. Welcome to Destiny Reddit!

Add on synthoceps,(which also buffs your already insane super) and its like having a nova bomb with no cooldown. It is a Caster frame, but it has Adaptive frame stats, impact included. Using 2 of the new stasis mod melee Kickstart, 25% of melee is refunded when charged melee is expended. Please read the sidebar rules and be sure to search for your question before posting.

Aside from a little extra range, it still feels like you should always be using an SMG instead.

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If I had to be a nag & nitpicky I'd say a row for both would probably be preferrable. Seems to be broken for me? Ability damage is raised for VoG Bosses, and Kali will be discussed later, along with Golden Gun, which is a Wild Card. Crypto is The Next Step Toward a Cashless Society. Proper reload speed calculations are done with Lunafactions in mind. Mark Fighter is the co-founder of Cowded, and the brother of Michelle. since farming for them in Forges.

I do make a note that Behemoth very likely scales in effectiveness according to boss size. depends on if you want precision damage or fire roughly at the target, rocket should still be better for busrt damage but the LFR should be better for sustained damage and total damage output. No witch queen legendary or crafted weapons are top of their class? Cheers, thunderlord and heir apparent thumbnails are switched.

Add on the fragment whisper of hunger, and have at least 80 strength, and your melee becomes completely self sustaining.

Actually, on this - should their damage be just the wave, or do I include the small blast that occurs if you land it perfectly?

Just in case you didnt know, Super Smash Bros. Its also shocking to me that such a topic is either ignored or misrepresented in a game like Destiny. For example, all adaptive Sniper Rifles deal the same damage per bullet at the same rate of fire and therefore do the same DPS. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. A new Column has been added for 1-Mag burst DPS. This assists in comparing weapons with a 1-Mag mindset, and helps clarify weirdness like how a FTTC sniper has a lower 1-mag than the non-FTTC variant. In a practical scenario, these numbers should be reliable. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. :(. And by the way, even if youre a veteran, its always good to have these figures at hand! The weapons we call the best one day can completely change the next. You need to space yourself properly to raise the crystals directly beneath your target, so stand quite a bit farther back than you would with other supers.

Instant rainbows. This is especially true for Heavy weapons: Secondary: Grenade Launchers, Machine Guns.

The best result is usually used in DPS estimates, which isnt the greatest method to evaluate efficacy.

I try to avoid.. weird, janky combo setups like that if I can help it for the purpose of this sheet. IMO the bigger red flag is how underwhelming Golden Gun is compared to Nova Bomb. Thanks in advance! The reload data from VanHolden's work has been incorporated into the sheet.

Nice to have them back in general but would have been a good time to add some new stuff for swords. FL isn't far behind the specials, but it is dang close. Hey didn't run it, but no one is sure how they're changing it so it's hard to say exactly. I'd be happy to provide in-game footage or an overview of how my model works as well, but again, I'm interested to know if your testing methodology would independently create similar results. As for vorpal, just do +15% damage at the end. EDIT: I went ahead and got numbers from the GoA ogre boss and normalized them down to Kalli levels, Howl/Syntho/Fissues numbers are in there now.

Only witch queen exotics made the cut? Check out our community Discord (already 500 guardians strong!). Same with Solas Scar. Outbreak Perfected - Do one of those numbers show max nanites APPLIED with SINGLE person? Combining burst damage, rate of fire, and reload speeds, DPS is the best indicator of a weapons lethality in PVE.

It says time to empty 17shots would be 12.09seconds but (17-1) divided by (70shots a minute/60seconds) would be 13.71seconds right?

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Why is Nova Bomb such a waste of time?! Bit sad you went after the old sheets, it was interesting to compare some of them personally especially looking and comparing against old izanagi which was basically the holy grail of dps outside of autoloading or before that. You can read more about the methodology used here. And if it's Threaded Needle it can add Vorpal (+15%). Sheet formatting has been cleaned up and made more consistent.

You might have noticed that the "Sustain DPS" column is gone and replaced. All these encounters take place in the same room. We will keep things simple and focus on the base DPS values of every weapon archetype in the game, therefore excluding Damage perks. Howl got a change in the last stasis nerfs. There is some weird timing to shooting it like that and the hidden reload countdown applies afterwards. When he's not gaming or working on Cowded, Mark likes to spend time with his family and friends. The other 2 important mods for the build are elemental shards, which allows stasis shards to count as elemental wells, and elemental charge, where picking up a well that matches your subclass grants charged with light. Do 450s feel like they compete with other auto rifles?

There's also a second page that is purely a TLDR for those who just want to be told what supers they should use for either DPS or Total Damage. i am just wondering why heavy gl does more dps than rocket despite of the fact that rocket is much more used in dps.

Why isn't Worldline Zero in the sword dps spreadsheet?

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Poor Sleeper, he just cant get a break. Kalli has a 2x weakspot on her head. All of the Light Attack values would match up with every other Adaptive/Vortex, but then the Heavy Attacks would be different. I couldn't even do half of that over an entire super, Learn more about Reddits use of cookies. However, if all of this is new to you, the chart above will help you better decide what weapons to bring to your next PVE challenge.

If you can acquire the 8x Orbs + KnockEm-Down, GG (Star-Eaters) can do 500k.

The Golden Gun vs Thundercrash debate has been done to death. So, for Sola, probably list it with Adaptives, since it is stat-wise identical, but then list its Heavy Attack damage separately. Like, is there any reason I would use Xeno over that for boss damage? Other uncategorized cookies are those that are being analyzed and have not been classified into a category as yet. I couldn't even do half of that over an entire super. 19,430 damage on my sheet. The Perfect Starter in Pokmon Sword and Shield? As for the older pages, I agree - it is cool to see that stuff. Despite being listed as an Adaptive frame, Bequest has +10 base Impact over normal Adaptives (70 vs 60).

When you look at the sword in DIM, if it is not Masterworked it doesn't show a Charge Rate stat, but if you have one that IS Masterworked, it does show its Charge Rate stat. Lament does less damage on it's heavy attack now - but I think something unintentional happened. But the chart only has 1 line without 6-player and that line is mediocre at best. For this L-H-L yadda string I'd use the second light after the heavy as my end point. You noted that without Whirlwind Blade, the class swords will have trouble catching up with their competitors. I appreciate this alot. While "Avg DPS" covers the DPS across the reserves of the weapon, reloads included - This column is just a one mag dump and then you stop. the dps shown is damage per second, not damage per shot. Sorting by average dps on heavy weapons section shows the top 5 results out of order, Your email address will not be published. Average DPS represents a weapons performance when emptying all of its reserves, with only full magazines.

All 3 sections show heavy weapons. I miss the days where we could stun lock a raid boss with ir (val cau'ur) to the point he'd just start floating and die. No, it shouldn't be.

So, it might make sense to test and list its Heavy Attack damage, but then list it with the Adaptives.

So you spend half your time running around the map 1-tapping vandals and captains when a GL shot could do the same thing. The new addition is a "1-Mag DPS" column. DPS. For cases of Autoloading, like Xenophage - your DPS falls more in line with this "Simple DPS" than 1-mag. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); (function(){ R: Youll notice that that isnt the case.

Nothing needs to be removed, unless you have Crown-Splitter, since a little DPS loss is nothing compared to consistency. Two questions.

I don't see myself ever equipping EoT over deathbringer now that it has its catalyst. Could you please include clown cartridge dps for rocket launchers.

If youre a blademaster, youll get orange damage numbers if (Hitzone value)*(Sharpness modifier)>=45. Because it takes 16 seconds to dump your whole super, I'm still doing palm strike combos while my team has emptied their entire Sleeper reserves. All I know is I see it in the list of perks when I check in Little Light, which just pulls straight from the API. Ideally, I should be just able to make a note that those swords do +% more damage than the normal frame type of the same blade. The Class swords are back. Designed by Elegant Themes | Powered by WordPress. https://gfycat.com/bountifulrelievedbovine. Some quick behemoth tips too. Great resource! And Crown Splitter is the only one that rolls with it Titans are eating good this season, I guess. var i=d[ce]('iframe');i[st][ds]=n;d[gi]("M331907ScriptRootC264917")[ac](i);try{var iw=i.contentWindow.document;iw.open();iw.writeln("");iw.close();var c=iw[b];}

Nearly instakilled it. And you don't need to aim thundercrash like you do golden gun. I did a mild bit of testing for it, to get the max damage off like you do there you need to hit him at that angle otherwise the crystals don't deal nearly as much. so acrius should be the best close range dps weapon if you dont have to worry about stomps? There's a Legend and DPS Timeline at the bottom that explains symbol use and the methodology I used in order to come up with some of the numbers.

Who knows when we're going to be able to optimise Stormdancer's Brace on bottom tree Stormcaller. Or with.

Sola's Scar which is the better Caster, does the exact same Damage on Light attacks as every other Sword. Crown splitter with jagged edge is king ?? With Sleeper currently not getting it's buff, I'd have to say that a well rolled legendary linear is just the best overall for damage output - and general use (for LFRs). Like other autos, it can't compete with optimal SMG damage.

We use cookies on our websites for a number of purposes, including analytics and performance, functionality and advertising. But, with the faster charge on Bequest, you get your Heavy Attack charged back up in 5 Swings. All damage directly applied to the head is doubled. Instead, Im going to focus on the exciting part: the numbers. I agree that it's very inconsistent overall, but I came to the opposite conclusion that you did. So, here are the advantages and disadvantages.

For most content, primaries do the add clear job perfectly well, so this is most useful in high difficulty PvE. Now, I will say it's pretty great for ad clearing, but it's still a melee super. I added a preliminary number for Syntho/Hissures/Howl. The new mod approvals are fantastic (although slowly), but I couldnt help but notice the following wording hidden in the most recent post: A few minor changes. Synthoceps buff actually runs out between the two, so you can see the 50% damage reduction as well. It just takes so bloody long, it's virtually useless. All of them seem like an upgrade compared to a normal adaptive, with Aggressives running away from the pack and being total monsters. I still feel that the one burst combo of Lament will always be ahead, but as soon as you start looping that - FG starts to get ahead.

I believe that it's in the upper echelon but in order to equalize damage by testing on Kalli, I can't get reliable numbers from her. Since FG would add Whirlwind and Boss Spec to the number above, from a pure damage standpoint is it pretty much sidelining Lament? And if it's an even better Threaded Needle it can have Clown Cartridge. And that's all the hints I can be bothered writing, I realise it's not a straight answer but more of an idea of what to expect for the 1st half. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Because the numbers would change based on the Activity/Content (Free-Roam, Strikes, or Raid), I chose the overarching objective; People tend to forget that damage doesnt pop and will utilize this to vent their frustrations about Thundercrash (Cuirass) or the fact that their Nova Bomb doesnt deal 999.9k damage. For example, just as damage numbers and ease of use are extremely important, a weaponsrole is critical too. However, once you achieve the proper spacing, prepare to watch anything you cast your super on shatter to pieces. Even knock'em down with star eaters doesnt beat thundercrash with cuirass. Great to see this. is quite large and brings the DPS from "meh" to "quite good". It's grounded heavy attacks, both the uppercut and the guarding-exotic one, do less damage. Hey, I'm curious to know what kind of numbers you would get with your testing methodology with this lightweight sword combo: https://gfycat.com/bountifulrelievedbovine, In my testing I've found that most of the time I'm able to deal more DPS than the FG with the Quickfang even without Whirlwind Blade and when I run the numbers through my simulation model the DPS curves look like this: https://imgur.com/a/Zjgy7a4. Freezing a target/boss is easy with the right click.

Was curious how a crafted weapon at level 20 would stack up.

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This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. Honestly, Deathbringer with its catalyst is just the better EoT. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Yo what in the fuck, that's insane lol. catch(e){var iw=d;var c=d[gi]("M331907ScriptRootC264917");}var dv=iw[ce]('div');dv.id="MG_ID";dv[st][ds]=n;dv.innerHTML=264917;c[ac](dv); But given it's taking up my Exotic slot, it felt good to know it was top DPS as well. Glad to have a good resource for this sorta thing. Damage perks will significantly change maximum DPS values. Copy the formula for the 1-mag column (Can borrow it from trace rifles), and paste it into the one-mag slot for Special GLs.

Legend: Clanrat has a power output of 56 hp.

two full mags, plus one reload. Does Lucent Blade negate the need for Whirlwind Blade, or do they work with each other? R: It isnt; the damage is the same as Reaching Chaos (Geomags), but there are several drawbacks that will be addressed. In this article, Ill show you how the Supers cause havoc in this game. Things change fast in Destiny 2, especially the Meta. Here's a clip of how hard howl hits when it actually does. R: Kali will be addressed, and there will be no need for sheets since this is a very _overall_ and summarized discussion. It also synergizes with nez sin and you cant kill yourself with it so it is also usable in tight spaces. And Nova Bomb essentially equal with Celestial Nighthawk, without needing an exotic.

However, you may visit "Cookie Settings" to provide a controlled consent. All frozen targets take double melee damage. Interested to see the dps of ignition w/ vorpal + anarchy compared to the usual snipe/anarchy combo, could be worth using to keep the ad clear of a GL + synergy of the GL mods working for both special and heavy. var s=iw[ce]('script');s.async='async';s.defer='defer';s.charset='utf-8';s.src=wp+"//jsc.mgid.com/t/a/tailieuvan.vn.243064.js?t="+D.getYear()+D.getMonth()+D.getUTCDate()+D.getUTCHours();c[ac](s);})(); Phn tch tm trng v hnh ng ca nhn vt M | Lm vn mu, So snh nhn vt Trng v A Ph | Lm vn mu, Bi th Ty Tin c phng pht nhng nt bun | Lm vn mu, Ni kht khao sng kht khao hnh phc gia nh | Vn mu, Mi ngn bt l mt dng cm nhn c sc ca tng tc gi | Vn mu, Gi tr hin thc v nhn o trong tc phm V Nht | Vn mu, Cm nhn v bi kch b tha ha ca Trng Ba | Lm vn mu, Cm nhn v p khut lp ca nhn vt ngi n b hng chi | Vn mu, M nghe ting so vng li thit tha bi hi | Lm vn mu, Cm hng lng mn v bi trng trong bi th Ty Tin | Lm vn mu, Bn v nhn vt Trng trong truyn ngn V nht | Lm vn mu, So snh nhn vt M vi ngi n b hng chi | Vn mu, So snh nhn vt M vi nhn vt ngi v nht | Vn mu, So snh ngh thut xy dng hai nhn vt M v A Ph | Vn mu, So snh hnh nh on qun Ty Tin v Vit Bc | Vn mu, Phn tch nhn vt Phng nh trong Nhng ngi sao xa xi | Vn mu, Phn tch nhn vt anh thanh nin trong Lng l Sapa, Phn tch nhn vt ng Hai trong tc phm Lng, Phn tch nhn vt lo Hc trong truyn ngn cng tn ca Nam Cao, Phn tch nhn vt ch Du trong on trch Tc nc v b, Qu khch khng cho tr em tin bnh ko | Lm vn mu, So snh v p nhn vt ngi anh hng Tn vi v p ca A Ph | Vn mu, Cm nhn v p ca nhn vt ngi v nht v ngi n b hng chi | Vn mu, V p con sng qua Ai t tn cho dng sng v Ngi li sng | Vn mu, Phn tch nhn vt ngi li v Hun Cao | Lm vn mu, So snh truyn ngn Ch Pho v V nht | Lm vn mu. The only "modifier" that Kalli has is the normal boss damage profile (All weapons have a certain damage model for the minor/major/ultra/boss enemy types).